Tiger Mother: Socialization Is Over-Romanticized

33 thoughts on “Tiger Mother: Socialization Is Over-Romanticized

  1. i’m fifteen years old why the hell should I understand neurology now??some people are born with certain qualities but those qualities can be acquired through some methods!! nikolas tesla was not born a genius, as a matter of fact he had some disabilities when still young! No, I think you have no freaking idea what you’re talking about…

  2. Greetings, my name is Markoslav Mikhailevich-Lakevskiy, I’m sixteen years old and I can explain Marshal Daiamp’s argument a bit more vividly. Well, maybe if you can actually comprehend what I’m about to say, then you’ll see the vividness which I am about to inscribe with my stylus, this will not only be a single comment; more than one comment will be posted.

  3. I also observed that Daiamp talks about those with the abilities are most often autistic, that is true, but it is savant syndrome which allows them to do that. Either savant syndrome or absolute pitch will allow an individual to develop such an extraordinary skill. I’m going to shift my scope towards Christine Han now, Daiamp is correct about how discipline will not allow one to simply become a genius, that is not a causal effect, genius is always correlational.

  4. Some people are indeed born with certain qualities, and yes, some can actually be acquired, but these people need to have the neurological construct to actually be able to improve so greatly in these areas; this can happen by an injury. Many are born with a disability, and accompanied by an ability which compensates for their disability, in Nikola Tesla’s case, his was an enhanced cognition. Nikola Tesla was also a late bloomer.

  5. The end of your statement “I think you have no freaking idea what you’re talking about…” is a fallacy, an ad hominem, and for your “education”, do not use these in any arguments because an ad hominem in a dispute is auto-failed.

  6. History is called history for a reason. It’s the past a thriving on the past don’t help no one.

  7. history and politics are two different things. history can include political history but usually history means more than just politics.

  8. You lived in liverpool for two months so know little about Liverpool and even less about the whole of England.

  9. Good work Amy Chua. By the way, no one should be made to apologize for laying emphasis on traditional values of hardwork, proper time management and thinking 15 times more than you socialize. 

  10. Anyone who thinks socialization is over-romanticized, should sit in on a job interview with an applicant that was home-schooled sometime. Not all well-paying jobs require the stereotypical ‘high school cheerleader’-networking skills that are overvalued and short-lived in the real world. But it is generally true that to enter into the upper echelons of leadership in business, you need sound, socially-useful and relevant networking capabilities. Capabilities, that simply cannot be acquired being educated in isolation, likely being denied the problem solving obstacles of proper K-12 school social strata. If you’re the world’s top theoretical physicist, you will have PR-handlers and publicists sending you resumes to work for free and manage you. But most people don’t have that advantage and cannot simply survive working in isolation and maintaining brilliance and productivity. That’s just not realistic. Socialization is a key component to overall success.

  11. In Asian countries,students can get disciplined for organizing things like “proms” ;in the far past,expulsion meant criminal background. In Western societies, the man with hugher physical traits such as height,chest size etc. gets the better woman;not so in Asia. The ones with better achievement get the best women. The extreme is Singapore where the government steps in so that only the best get married. This makes sense. An average European with 10 years of education and following apprenticeship in handwork will not get a wife in Asia. besides, other countries require 12 years of education as a minimum for the lowest social rank jobs.

  12. For example, in a society, judges,lawyers, doctors and engineering Ph.Ds are more worth than generalist paper pushers or factory workers or low educated(10 years of school) handworkers. Socialization does not make one become a judge,lawyer or Ph.D; studying very very hard does. It is not the socializing paper pushers but the judges who studied very very hard who hand down jail sentences.

  13. The most dramatic example showing Mrs.Chua is right is Korea which has become a feminist matriarchy-men went to the old way of socializing and fell down to lowest social levels as they can’t get professional jobs and must sell chicken once they reach the age of 40s as they have to leave their office jobs. Only women become judges,lawyers,diplomats, teachers,public servants etc. as they spend all the time studiying instead of hanging around like men. A woman who has become a judge and a man who socialized and became a demolition thug(as it is mostly the case nowadays with gender quotas even enforced in the private sector)-clearly the latter is the socially lesser being. This is why feminism is gaining ground-now the role of the male on the human genetics is being officially discarded and the female mytochondria being considered the sole source of genetics.

  14. She is a great parent because she leads by example. I too want my daughter when they are 50 years old, to wear short skirts on TV interviews.

  15. She makes sense, but to be sense, shes not a real Asian “Tiger Mom.” She may have influence from her parents and she marketed this to America, but come to China or Korea and talk to the moms here. Those are the real Tiger Mom. She said her daughter has a boyfriend? Thats no Tiger Mom right there.

  16. that’s a false dichotomy. Either you work hard, or you’re social. You can’t do both? Demonstrably false.

  17. she looks like a lesbo with man watch to call attention… “Manly girls are UGLY” and may surprise you with dingdong. lol

  18. Also socialization is something that YOU can’t use to feel good, that YOU can’t use to brag about how great a parent you are, that YOU can’t use to give yourself a comfortable retirement in a few decades (looking after elders is expected of the Chinese)

  19. I don’t really know, but would a couple hours a weekend really keep your kid from becoming the noble peace prize winner or whatever? As a normal american teenager, I don’t really hangout with my friends outside of school except on Saturdays and only for a couple hours.(Lets just say 4 hours average) I highly doubt 16 hours a month out of 730 would keep me from being successful. Extremism is just unnecessary, you can achieve to your highest ability AND have a social life. Now that doesn’t mean go to a party all the time and stay on Facebook forever, but geez is robbing these children of social lives really helping them in the end? I don’t think so. You can have your cake and eat it too but PRIORITIZING is key. Not extremism.

  20. It totally depends on who your social group is. It can have a positive synergistic effect or it can turn kids toward a more deconstructionist approach where they quickly become too smart to listen to their parents.

  21. Humans are social creatures. Socialization is a necessary part of development, but I also don’t think having play dates prevents a child from becoming a very successful musician or anything. The two aren’t mutually exclusive

  22. Quality of life and a happy childhood? You’re totally going to be a failure if you have these!

  23. In a weird way I totally get where she is coming from. I feel like she raises a good points.

  24. I understand what she’s trying to get at but she doesn’t finish her sentence and jumps to a new one; I think there’s just so much she wants to say and can’t arrange her thoughts

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